SPEAKER_02: 2:46

Hey sister, welcome to the Power on Plants podcast. Are you tired of staring into the fridge wondering what to eat so you can just feel better? Do you want to avoid spending hours in the kitchen making complicated meals in the name of health? Would you love to leave fatigue behind and finally have the energy to do all the things you want to do? Hi, we're Jared and Eatery's Cell Christfollowers, healthcare professionals, parents of four, and big fans of great tasting food. We too tried exercising more, eating natural and clean foods, but we still found ourselves struggling with what we thought were changes that come with age or bad genes. And we weren't finding answers the traditional route, so we dug into the research and created our secret nutritional weapon, sustainable plant-based living. The truth is you can eat more whole plant foods, and it's not hard. You just need the way that's realistic and delicious so you never feel deprived. If you're ready to enjoy your meals, no longer be held back by your health struggles and actively live your life, then you're in the right place. So grab your favorite plant-based cup of happy, pop in those hair buds, and let's get started. Welcome back. Today we're diving into part two of our conversation with the wonderful Terry Edwards. And I want to say this up front. If you have not yet heard part one, hit pause right now and go back. Not because you should, but because part one was packed with some serious leadership gold. If you've been praying for a new strength, clear direction, or the energy to fully show up for the opportunities God keeps placing on your heart, part one is the foundation that unlocks it.

SPEAKER_00: 4:25

But if you did hear part one, then buckle up because part two goes straight to the heart of the breakthrough. Terry shares the wisdom leaders need when the journey gets discouraging. How to hear God in the middle of a health struggle and a perspective shift that can turn your deepest value into the exact place where your calling comes alive. This is the kind of conversation that lights up your faith, strengthens your resolve, and reminds you exactly why your life and mission matter.

SPEAKER_02: 4:51

All right, let's dive in. What Terry shares next is powerful, and it begins right here. So for everybody listening as a Christian leader, I want you to understand what Terry has just told you because instead of being discouraged when she found out this revelation about her doctors already knowing that plant-based work and could have helped her, she found she saw a massive gap in the market and she filled it. An opportunity. An opportunity that she had to share what was placed on her heart or in her lap because God showed her what she needed to do when the doctors didn't. So she's determined, she determined at that point basically to be an entrepreneur that offered health solutions, walking straight into the medical facility and doing what Jared and I call taste and see, right? She walks in with her cookies that smelled so good.

SPEAKER_00: 5:45

And the brilliance of that is you were doing the exact same thing that the drug reps would do bring samples and literature. You brought cookies and recipes. That's what made me think of it. Yeah. You're following the exact same model and it worked.

SPEAKER_02: 5:59

And just saying, I'm going to be the resource that's missing in this broken system. So that strategic move is what eventually placed you as a go-to expert teaching plant-based nutrition, like you said, in the local cancer centers and now creating your blog where you reach a lot of people. So what we love most about how God took what the enemy wants to use to silence you, the pain that you went through, the acne, the rheumatoid symptoms that was preventing you from holding hands, and then the exhaustion that stole your joy. And it weaponized, you know, that what was going on. God weaponized that into your greatest mission. And I think that's so awesome just to think about it's your ministry now. So what would you say to leaders who are walking through their own health valley right now, not realizing that their breakthrough could become the fuel for whatever God has placed onto their hearts to do?

SPEAKER_01: 6:59

Well, what do you think? I would just say always be watching and listening. God's always talking. I don't think he's silent. I think he's with us 24-7, encouraging us to go this way or that way. The question is, are we listening?

SPEAKER_03: 7:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 7:17

That really is key. For me, it's starting my day every day in my devotions and prayers and asking him to open my ears and open my eyes for the opportunities that he's going to present today, because he's going to present some. They're there. And we just have to be looking for them because he'll guide us. He says in his word that he has a purpose for every one of us. And I don't think that means just in our lifetime. I think that means daily. Yes. There's if you're if we're breathing, there's a purpose. Yes. So what is that purpose? Have you asked him today? What is his purpose for you still being able to breathe? And there's opportunities around all of us if we're open to him. Yes. And I think that that's key because what he wants us to do sometimes is not what we want to do. Absolutely. I would have probably chosen what he has done in my life from the beginning. I would have been afraid. I would have thought, I can't do this, they're not going to listen. I would have been like Moses saying, I don't want to do it, or all of the great people in the Bible who were just like, I can't do this. And God's like, Of course you cannot do this. He can do this through you. If you will just be attentive, listen, and submit, daily. So the opportunities are there. I think it comes down to how close are we walking with him and can we hear him? Because he has a plan. And that's in every one of our lives. I'm not special. I just couldn't have pictured this, but I'm available. I think that's the kid as you meet with him, saying, I'm available, just like Mary did when the angel came and told her that she was going to have a baby, and she had never even been with a man. And that would have meant stoning and everything else to her. But she said, I'm available for his will, basically. Be it unto me as God wishes. And that's really the attitude we all need to have, and then just be looking and not with a no on our tip of our tongue. But you can be rocked by some of the things he may ask you to do, but don't say no. Just say I'm available. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 9:36

Because if he's calling you to it, he's going to equip you. And it doesn't necessarily mean it's not going to be a bumpy ride, but he's going to be there to equip you to do that.

SPEAKER_01: 9:43

Yes. Exactly. Yeah. And even like for me, I left my job when I was teaching, even before I had the income from teaching that my previous job had provided, but I felt like that that was the way that I was supposed to go. And then you run into another bump when COVID hits and I can't teach anymore. But God's faithful. Like you said, Jared, it doesn't mean it's all going to be easy, but it does mean he is there and will bring you through every single step. Don't think of every problem as a, oh no, now it's going to crash. Think of each problem as a okay, God, where do I go now? He'll open another door to you because the other one wasn't going to take you where he wanted you to go anyway.

SPEAKER_00: 10:28

I would even suggest some of those bumps are in the road or the enemy trying to prevent you from doing what God's called you to do. Absolutely. It's like, nope, I'm going to overcome this struggle because on the other side of this lays something amazing.

SPEAKER_02: 10:39

And I feel like for me, I struggled a lot of times with trying to go and do the things and trying to figure stuff out on my own without just spending time at his feet, falling in love with him, having the relationship that Jesus died to bring us. That's exactly why he came to die. He had to deal with sin, but that wasn't his main purpose in coming, except for the fact that it moved sin out of the way. Because sin had to be moved out of the way in order for the purpose to be fulfilled. And his whole purpose was to bring us back into right relationship with Father, that we have the privilege of having every day of coming into his presence, talking to him, asking him to lead us and guide us. And according to John 17, 3, that's a very definition of eternal life. And it starts here on this earth, that one-on-one intimacy. It's not about religion.

SPEAKER_00: 11:28

It's here on earth as it is in heaven.

SPEAKER_02: 11:30

Yes, that relationship, letting his kingdom come through us. And we can't do that trying to figure it out on our own. We have to get at his feet and get what Jared said, his marching orders, his loving instructions of the Father that he wants to give us for that day. And it's exactly what Jesus did. That's how he started his mornings and continued his day. You know, I don't do anything, I don't hear the Father say. So pattern.

SPEAKER_01: 11:54

Absolutely. Yeah. I I pray in the mornings because one specific thing that I asked for in the prayers is because I deal with so many people. And some people are kind, some people are not kind in different situations, whether it's virtually like we are right now, or whether it is online answering comments and emails and all that kind of stuff. Right. And I'm representing my creator. Even in the plant-based world where other people are looking to me for recipes and for health information, I'm still representing my creator. So I always pray in the mornings for God to set a guard for my mouth and keep watch at the gate of my lips that everything that I would say, whether through my keyboard or on the phone or whatever, would be for his glory. That is good.

SPEAKER_02: 12:41

That's so good, sister. I love that. That is such good advice. Just submit every day. Yes. And when we're surrendered to him and he can take our hands and our mouths and our minds and do that creative process through us because we were created to create things, but to bring his kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven. He wants that to happen through your life as a leader and through our lives as leaders. And anyone who's listening as a leader, it's not just about teaching plant bases. What's God called you to do? What's your mission? And it can have a ripple effect. That's why we're so passionate about getting that one-on-one relationship right with God, having the bread of life and the living water, and then getting the foods to steward your body well, the way God optimally intended from the very beginning. And when those things align, you start to see life come into your life and you think feel better, then what will that finally allow you to do?

SPEAKER_00: 13:33

Because it's not just about feeling better. Yes. It's not just about looking better. I mean, those are nice, but what will that then allow you to do? Fulfill that calling.

SPEAKER_02: 13:42

And even the next step to that then is the ripple effect that it has on people around you because sometimes when you start eating plant-based or living in kingdom ways, what happens is the people around you start to notice. And at first they may seem like they don't like it and they may seem resistant to it. You're not doing it to make somebody else do something, like always focus on yourself and what God's shown you to do. And sometimes that means standing up and doing the hard thing when there are other people around you that aren't quite supportive. But you have to realize that when they hit a wall in something, they're gonna call who? Who are they gonna call?

unknown: 14:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 14:18

Yeah. So, like with us, we work with people with help. When they hit a wall with help, who are they calling? They're calling us. And it's the same thing with you as a leader. When somebody hits a wall in that thing, are you gonna be prepared? Are you gonna be ready because you spent time at your master's feet? And because you now have fueled your body in the way that you can actually show up because you feel good. And you know, you just all these different things that you've been released from that the enemy was using to keep you stuck. Now you've replaced those foods and those things that were sabotaging you with the things that put life in your body, these life-giving foods.

SPEAKER_00: 14:50

So too, your life just lived out is a witness that you have the truth. So when they're seeking the truth, they intuitively know where to come to get direction for that.

SPEAKER_02: 15:01

And then there's the ripple effect, which is what I want to ask you about. So, with your sister, when she found out she was dealing with rheumatoid, what happened with that? And how did that make you feel being able to offer something to your family that you couldn't have offered before?

SPEAKER_01: 15:19

Yeah, that was a funny story. My sister and I are very close and we don't live that far from each other. So we spend a lot of time together. And she watched me healing as I went on this journey. And we do a lot of family get-togethers, and there's a lot of country cooking. We live in the south. There's just right, right. We get it. Same here. And so when I'm going to these things and taking different food and everything, it's just sort of like, oh, whatever you would need to do for you, kind of a thing. Right. But there was support, but not really, you know, because they they just it was things they weren't familiar with with food. But as they saw me get better, I didn't even have to preach at them about, and I had decided not to, not to try to convert them to eating the way that I'm eating because I figured the visual effect was going to be so much better. Yes. And so they watched me get well, lose weight, get everything under control. And then they started asking questions about what I was doing. And my sister was so happy for me. She'd suffered with a lot of the same medical issues that I did, and she was so happy, but she never made an attempt to try to ask me how she could do it. Because, come to find out, she's always been known as the vegetable hater in our family. Oh, because she didn't eat very much. It was all fried chicken. Yes, yes, we get it. But yeah, she said she couldn't do it. She said that um she couldn't, there wouldn't be enough food for her to survive on because she liked her ham and she liked her chicken and her burgers and all of those things. So she didn't think that there was any hope. Right. But we get together on Sunday afternoons at my mom's house, and so one Sunday afternoon we were talking about it, and I said, Surely you don't hate all vegetables. And she said, No, pretty much I do. So I asked her if she could just name a few that she did like, and there were there weren't many. She liked pickles and potatoes. But as I questioned her, there were things she still does not like mushrooms. There was a lot of things she didn't like, but there was enough. She actually likes broccoli. She could not stand Brussels sprouts, things like that. But there's with all of the variety of vegetables and fruits and beans and grains, there was plenty. We made we sat down and made lists, and there was plenty. And I remember her being very excited that day because she thought, well, she might could see some of the same results that I was seeing after all. After she had pretty much thought that there was no possible way, and she had it running. She and I both have a personality where we go in 100% at something, and she did, and she did so well. She came off of all she was even on anxiety medicine. And I'm not saying that you'll always be able to do that, but she came off of her anxiety medications, and she just did wonderfully. She lost weight, she got healthy, and she actually helps me develop recipes now. And I wish a lot of recipes on the website are from her. She develops plant-based recipes, and I still kip her because she was the vegetable hater of the family. That's it. And now, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 18:29

And probably what she what she probably didn't realize though is that she's not necessarily gonna be that way for the rest of her life. Like in that moment, she probably never conceived of I might actually like Brussels sprouts one day.

SPEAKER_01: 18:41

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 18:42

Yes, they think it's always gonna be just this narrow range of foods that they like, and so they become resistant. And I get it. I mean, it I I don't know if fear is the right word, but there's some concern there.

unknown: 18:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_00: 18:55

Then once they can start seeing the changes and oh wow, I actually kind of like these vegetables now. When I didn't before, then they see that just there's a whole wide world of foods that will open up for them.

SPEAKER_01: 19:06

Yeah. I think she found, and a lot of people find that maybe they tried a particular vegetable or something cooked a certain way, like with Brussels sprouts, maybe they boiled them like they used to do. I didn't care for Brussels sprouts myself before. And so you decide I do not like Brussels sprouts, and you never eat them again. But maybe you haven't had them roasted and glazed with some balsamic. So there are so many different ways, and then you find out they actually are good. It was just one time that you tried a preparation, yeah, and then you wip them off when that's that's a whole different ball game with different cooking methods, and she found the same thing.

SPEAKER_02: 19:47

And then your taste buds change, yeah, or maybe they weren't fresh, like Jared said, but your taste buds also change. Like I never knew broccoli was sweet before, and now you can taste the sweetness. So there's so many different things about why you might like something you thought you never liked, and it could even become one of your favorites.

SPEAKER_01: 20:03

It could. And I think a lot of people, maybe, and and my sister was one of them, had been eating in the past or trying and deciding they didn't like something, like broccoli and things things that were overcooked.

SPEAKER_02: 20:16

Yes, yeah, especially in the south.

SPEAKER_01: 20:19

Yeah, and they're just mushy and they are dark looking and are not appetizing. But if you put them in a stir fruit where they still have a little bit of crunch and a lot of color, that's a whole different ballgame. And that's one thing my sister found out that she actually does like broccoli. She just she likes it in a stir fry. Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 20:38

It's just little things that make a huge difference. Absolutely. Just sometimes those little tweaks can be the big change that you need. And I know you were saying your doctors thought that this lifestyle might be part of it was that they didn't have the resources, and part of it was that they felt like people just wouldn't do it. Maybe they didn't have adequate support system. So, what would you tell busy leaders who think this lifestyle might require too much time or too much complexity for their demanding schedule?

SPEAKER_01: 21:06

I think that the key is doing a lot of research. For me, staying on course, especially in the beginning, was reading the books and watching the documentaries because that works as a catalyst to help keep the interest and show and convince you what is possible if you try this. And then for me, as far as sticking with it and that it was worth the effort, was trying it and seeing the results and realizing that well, one, everything actually did taste good. There was a lot of trial and error. I'm not gonna say every recipe that I tried was delicious, but I was convinced enough that I was going to stick with it. Right. But the results were what were the thing for me. I would not go back to the health that I had before ever. I would eat cardboard if I had to, but not really, but you know what I mean. I would just the results were all that I needed to be my motivation and my stick-to-it-ness. And then within that, one, the goal is to stay well and not be in pain. And then two, you learn to get creative with the foods and things. So to me, making the different foods and learning how to do that was like an experiment. It was almost like science and art all coming together. Yes. The science part was the nutrition, and the art was making food look appealing and be beautiful. Because even now, I mean, my family and my husband's family, we get together so much. And with the holidays coming up, I have to make things that look appealing that they won't even try them. Because we have a lot of family get togethers here, and people bring dishes. And so there is a baked ham in my kitchen sitting beside, you know, my vegan meatloaf or my lentil shepherd's pie. So the food has to look appealing to compete with that. And it's like a it's almost like an assignment for me to try to at least try it and see that it it's actually good. I would just say be motivated by the results and stay motivated by educating yourself through books and documentaries and everything to and it gets easier and easier over time.

SPEAKER_02: 23:24

Just realizing that it does not have to be complex, though. I feel like like maybe they listened to you, Terry, and they said, I don't have time to make an experiment. Like I need to know what to do. Well, you can do that. I mean, Jerry and I have a course where you teach people like step one, step two, step three, and it just makes it so much quicker and so much easier. And you have tons of recipes to get them started. We have the cookbook as well. So there's so many opportunities that if you get plugged in to the right space to be able to save time, what's one thing that you've done that's helped you to streamline things for you so that's not complex? And would you say, maybe this is even the more important question, would you say in general that now looking at it, is it harder than what you were doing before? And is it more complex? Does it take you more time now than it did before?

SPEAKER_01: 24:12

No, it everything becomes routine. Once you change the way that you cook, it just becomes routine and you keep things in your refrigerator in your cabinet at all times where if you're having a busy day and you know you're not going to have a lot of time to make dinner, there are those handful of recipes that you keep the ingredients on hand, and there are recipes that take like 15 minutes, whether it's black bean chili or something that you can pull together. It's easy to drive right past those fast food restaurants because you know, even though you're exhausted when you get home in 15 minutes, you can have dinner.

unknown: 24:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 24:46

We joke about it all the time. We laugh. We're like by the time I would stop and sit in line and order the food and get home, I could have easily had the meal cooked and eaten and it would have made me feel good. But not only that, for me, taste is huge. I'm so picky about recipes and taste. And we went through some that were, it was a struggle for us. We were thinking, okay, if this is what it's gonna be, this is not gonna work. But being picky has served me well with served Jared well because he gets to be the taste test.

SPEAKER_00: 25:13

I'm the beneficiary of her pickiness.

SPEAKER_02: 25:16

That's what he said. He gets to taste test more times. But I mean, it's so nice when you can have those things that are not complex. And the reality of the situation is that we believe the lie, that this is complex, it's hard, and it takes a lot of time. But just like you're saying, it becomes your new routine and you have those things you already make. I think, is it Dr. Bernard that said they're nine that you eat on repeat? Wheelhouse. Well, if you're doing that, so you have your wheelhouse recipes, then would it not be simple to just start out with a new nine? So that's what we talk about. Just finding your new favorite culinary expert.

SPEAKER_00: 25:51

Yes, and that's that's 300 recipes.

SPEAKER_02: 25:54

That's solid foundation. So, Terry, what would you say are your three go-to favorite whole food plant-based meals that you can execute consistently on repeat and you love them?

SPEAKER_01: 26:07

Yeah, we have certain ones that we eat very regularly. One is nachos, and we make a dinner. We're not talking about like nachos with just the cheese thing, but it's a full-hardy meal with the filling, which is like a taco filling I make with bulgur and beans and fire-roasted tomatoes, and then with my cheese sauce. I keep cheese sauce on the on hand all the time. I just make triple batches of it and keep some in the freezer. And so we do nachos on a regular basis, especially if we're having company, because everybody can top theirs with whatever that they want, and it just is very versatile. We have a lot of company that's not plant-based, and that's one dish that goes over well.

SPEAKER_02: 26:45

So, you have a favorite chip that you like to use? Do you normally make them, or do you have one that you found that just has better ingredients?

SPEAKER_01: 26:52

I just make them. It's just so easy to make if you keep the corn tortillas on hand to just slice them with a pizza slicer and spritz them with a little lime sauce and a little seasoning on them and bake them. It just is so simple to do. You could even serve the nachos on top of a bed of greens. You really could. Or pizza. Because even what we're doing nachos, we do greens on top, we do purple onions on top, and we do olives too. So it's just a wonderful, hearty, colorful setup. We do the black bean burgers a good bit with the chipotle sauce because um they're just really simple to make and very good and very filling. There's all that fiber because they're made with black beans and with whole oats. So that's another one. And my easy go-to one is just doing a vegetable grain bowl. Normally for us, it's brown rice, but you could do anything, any kind of whole grain that you wanted to. And then, like I've got sweet potatoes in the oven right now. So we'll do brown rice, then we'll have baked sweet potatoes on top of it, and then you can mix it up. If you want to add some black beans or some other kind of beans, you can fresh cilantra, lime juice squeezed over the top, and then we use tahine sometimes to season it or other seasonings that you might want to do. But talk about delicious, and we'll probably slice avocados and have those on the side as well. But that's a quick we always have brown rice on hand, but then you could do faro or any other grain that you enjoy and mix it up, mix it up with the vegetables. You could just buy frozen mixed vegetables, whether it's the Asian ones, not the ones with the sauce, but just frozen vegetables and steam those. Most of them you can just steam and put them with some soy sauce and a few seasonings. Again, I love cilantra, but I know some people don't, but that's my go-to. Or just chop up some greens and some fresh onions to go on top. There's just simple ways to have a very filling and healthy, healthy meal that will sustain you through the whole evening.

SPEAKER_00: 28:58

And there's no measuring, no measuring required.

SPEAKER_02: 29:00

Yeah, for a lot of those, toss it together. We call them food formulas, just throw this in and that in. And when you know the formulas, it just gets so simple. Yeah, it's just second nature. So, Terry, if you could sit face to face with a Christian leader who's where you were 10 years ago, what's one insight you'd offer them that could save them years of unnecessary struggle?

SPEAKER_01: 29:22

I think it would go back to the fact that God does not want them to be sick, that he cares, and that I would I would probably persuade them to consider what it was like in Genesis back in the garden and what Adam and Eve were told to eat, and what obviously the animals were eating. That's so good. I would just because that's where we can meet on the truth of God's word. And that's one thing with this new cookbook. When I started it, it was just gonna be another plant-based cookbook. But then the Holy Spirit laid it on my heart that it needed to be for Christian, not just for Christian people, but it needed to have a Christian focus on it because the church is sick. I mean, there are so many people within the church that are sick. Yeah. And even when we're coming together for these church functions and bringing in food, it's it's contributing. It's contributing. Absolutely. One of the physicians that said we go to the funerals of our loved ones to minister to the family. We bring in all this food that helps put the person who died in the grave anyway. I think he said we were digging our graves with our teeth.

SPEAKER_02: 30:44

Yes, and it happens in the hospitals too and the school systems. But you think about the hospitals, you have open heart surgery, bypass surgery, and then you wake up and you're having sausage and biscuits and bacon, and some of them restrict that, but it's still just not, yeah, pork, but it's still not gonna be healthy. It makes no sense, it makes zero sense.

SPEAKER_01: 31:02

It doesn't, but but yeah, my heart right now is for the Christian community, leaders and otherwise. Yes. And so that's one reason I'm I don't know, I feel like we're breaking ground and really hoping that in the next couple of years there's going to be a lot of shift there. I see it coming. I really do see it coming. I mean, yes, and I'm hopeful and prayerful about it. But yeah, the cookbook that I'm working on right now, it started out one way. God said no, I shelved it.

SPEAKER_03: 31:37

Redirect. Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 31:38

I just I had shelf it because my heart wasn't in it before. And then when he has guided me to add my faith to it and the importance and the scripture and going back to Genesis and all of those things that I can now share in it. Now I'm excited about it. And so much so that I've had such a hard time finding a publisher for it. I even went to a Christian publisher and we were talking for six months, and then finally, and they came back recently and said, now this was a publisher that is Amish and Mennonited. And they said, we are so entrenched in our traditional ways of eating with the eggs and everything that we don't think that we can, we don't think we can sell this to our church because we don't think that they'll do it. And I felt like, oh no, because this was the publisher I really wanted to go with because they had published another book that wasn't plant based that was a perfect way for somebody to add their faith into it. So I thought that I had found the answer. And that was a closed door. God said no. But then in a less than two weeks, An agent and an editor that was previously with Penguin read the proposal and said they feel like there's a market for a Christian plant-based cookbook and there's nothing like it out there. So now we're presenting it to Christian publishers. Yes. We will see. We've got to convince them that God cares about what all of us. I don't want to be so inclusive because I do definitely want to reach the Christian community, but I want to reach everybody because in my heart, so many of my followers maybe are not Christian. Yes. Are they vegan and plant-based? But if they are caring enough about food that they they'll get the message. Absolutely. The message of God through the cookbook. So I do not know what God has planned, but I do know there is movement here. Yes. And so I predict in the next two years we're going to see some shifts taking place within the Christian community heading for plant-based nutrition. I hope and pray that that's true, but I can feel it in my heart. I just do feel that in my heart. I think God is coming after his children. Yes. Absolutely. And he wants them healthy. And I believe he's pursuing them.

SPEAKER_02: 34:06

Yes, because how can his kingdom come when we're sick and all we're trying to do is just barely keep our head above water? Yet he's placed all these dreams and these missions on our hearts and our minds. And maybe you're at a place where you can't even dream yet. You have to get to that place. But I think a lot of us even have had some success in business, but you feel like you've hit this bottleneck with your health and you just can't live out all that he's called you to do. And you want to see his kingdom come through your life. And because it's exciting, there's nothing like pairing up with God and seeing what he can do through a life that is amazing. And there's so many people out there waiting for your message.

SPEAKER_00: 34:45

A sick person has only one dream to get better.

SPEAKER_02: 34:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 34:49

But a healthy person has thousands of dreams that the Lord has put there.

SPEAKER_02: 34:53

Absolutely. And so if you're a Christian book publisher and you just happen to land on the stage, we don't believe in coincidences, contact Terry through her website at eatplant-based.com because it could be a divine appointment. You just never know.

SPEAKER_01: 35:09

Yeah. And actually, I was going to mention too that I'm giving away stuff right now. Okay. If anybody wants to subscribe to the website, just go to eatplantbase.com. You don't even have to put the hyphen in it in a few. Oh, you don't. Okay. Eatplant based. Thankfully, we were able to take care of that. But yeah, I'm giving away for anybody who subscribes five vegan holiday recipes. Oh, nice. To impress those, you know, you probably like me, you've got guests coming that are not plant-based. And so some impressive holiday ones. And I have five Deer Tree, of course, plant-based dessert recipes. Yes. They're in a PDF ebook and they're free to you. If you subscribe, it'll send you a welcome email and you'll get two free ebooks.

SPEAKER_02: 35:55

Okay, so run don't walk to get those. Run, don't walk right now to get those because I'm going to tell you why. It's not just for holidays. So it may say holidays, but I'll tell you when you have something like that that is a showstopper that people will absolutely love, you want to have those in your arsenal. We call it an arsenal or a treasure chest so that you can pull those out at any gathering. You could take them to a gathering. You could use them when other people come over to visit and you're hosting people because that's what you want to serve. Those are those go-to meals that you want to serve. So go right now to eatplantbased.com and get those while Terry's offering them before they're gone, because you're going to want to have those in your treasure chest for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 36:36

I I get excited to share the recipes because people, when you're holding their hand to get them started, that's very important. So yeah, I'd love being able to share those things and give them away and hopefully change some minds. And even if one person in the family is planning to do this, if they can get others on board, it makes it easier. Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 36:56

And we have one more question for you, Terry, before we go. What Bible verse about healing has been your North Star throughout this journey and continues to guide you in how you approach your help?

SPEAKER_01: 37:08

You know, if I could point my camera around, it's not just about healing, but one of my favorite Bible verses is on my wall, dearby 29-11. For I know the plans that I have for you, declares the Lord plans to prosper you and not to harm you. So just reinforces to me that how much he cares about us, whether it's our health or the situations that we find ourselves in, he is on our side. Yeah. And he has plans for us to prosper us in our health and in just everyday life. So that was yeah, I just absolutely love it. Like I said, it's on my wall as a reminder. Even when things maybe aren't going well, if I can just remember that this is not where he leaves me. You know, this might be something he uses to get me to where he wants me to be. Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 38:02

And it's like we were talking about in the beginning, that part of the verse that you read to prosper us and not to harm us. So it's not him. We have an enemy, a common enemy who wants to keep us stuck. But we have a loving father who wants to prosper us because he wants to bring his kingdom, come to this earth through us. And but just because he genuinely cares for us, he created us to be his children, to walk with him, to talk with him. That's our purpose. If you're wondering what your purpose is, intimate relationships is your purpose. And you will never find fulfillment in anything like you're gonna find in that relationship with him. And I asked my friend Kimberly one time, I said, Why is God calling me to do this? And I think it's the same thing for you, Terry. It's like we live in bodies and our bodies are in order. But why is God calling us to do this? Because he wants us to have optimal lives, he wants to for us to thrive and to be able to live our calling. She said, Anita, when you can't even think clearly, when you're barely surviving the days, what are you gonna do? So I think this is just so important. Even if you think, I don't know if I could do this, try it and do Terry's method where she mentioned four weeks, she just went in all we all in, 100%, right? For four weeks. And it can make such a big difference just to see your body changes. So, friend, if you are sitting there right now and you're thinking, what if this could actually work for me? That stirring in your heart, it is not a coincidence. It is God whispering to you that your transformation story is waiting to be written. Do not let this moment pass you by. Write down just one thing today that hit your heart and take action on it this week. And then join us inside Pete Performance Network at poweronplants.com forward slash PPN and let us know. We can't wait to celebrate your breakthrough with you. Also, I want you to take a moment to like and share this episode with someone who needs to hear it and don't miss the treasure trove of the whole food plant-based gold that is waiting at Terry's website for you at eatplantbase.com, where Jared and I are so honored to contribute as guest experts. Her website is a treasure trove for you. She has tons of recipes waiting there for you. And Terry, we want to thank you for sharing your heart so generously and for reminding our listeners that their breakthrough, the one they've been praying for, it could be much closer than they think. Your story is proof that what the enemy meant for harm, God can transform into your greatest ministry. And as always, remember, you are loved, you are prayed for, and your best days are waiting for you.